0:00KI6WXP, good morning, everybody.
0:05Well, good morning, Joe.
0:07KI6WXP, good to hear your voice, brother.
0:09How you doing?
0:10Doing good, Max.
0:11Glad you made it back safe.
0:13Old Jeff hung in there and done a good job for you, by the way.
0:17KI6WXP, no prayer request.
0:19Copy, no prayer request.
0:20I appreciate the report on Jeff's performance.
0:23I knew he would do well.
0:24He always does.
0:25I'm so grateful for him standing in and doing that.
0:28So you guys had a good study on Psalm 129 yesterday, and that's a wonderful psalm as well.
0:35All right.
0:36Thank you, Joe, for being there.
0:38KI6WXP, any other check-ins, please come down.
0:58I'll see you next time.
1:10Thank you.
1:11WB7 VZELDA, VZELDA, and good morning.
1:41Hey, Roger, WB7 VZEL. Good to have you with us. How are you doing?
1:46Well, I'm celebrating the 500th anniversary of William Kendale's New Testament, published in Worms,
1:58because Cologne, France, the authorities got a hold of it and destroyed it, and he had to run.
2:06But, yeah, and he, 10 years later, he gave his life for spreading the New Testament in English and all over,
2:17and ultimately, of course, the Bible.
2:20Anyway, it's 500 years today.
2:22In Europe, it's probably the next day already, but at any rate, yesterday we highlighted it, and so anyway, we're highlighting the Bible today.
2:35William Kendale gave his life for it. WB7 VZEL.
2:38All right, real good, Roger. Thank you for that historical reminder of the price that our forefathers paid to get the Bible to us in English.
2:50It used to just be in Latin, and only the priests had access to it and were able to read it,
2:56and the layman didn't even know what it said and couldn't read because it wasn't in their language or it wasn't available.
3:03So Tyndale translated the Bible into English so that the common plowboy, the lowest people in society,
3:12could read the Bible, understand it, and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.
3:16So, Roger, thank you for that. Praise the Lord for William Kendale and the price he paid so we could have a Bible in our own language.
3:25All right, and now we'd like to acknowledge Michael, November 7, Quebec X-Ray Hotel.
3:31That's N7-QXH. Michael, see you there on the Utah SDR.
3:36Good to have you with us. Milwaukee, Oregon. That's not too far away from me.
3:40I'm in Foster, Oregon, which is right next to Sweet Home. You probably know where that's at.
3:45My wife and I shopped in Milwaukee on more than one occasion at antique stores there on the main street.
3:51So, anyway, Michael, it's good to have you with us.
3:54N7-QXH. Got you checked in off of the Utah SDR.
3:59All right, any other check-ins? Points come to us.
4:02KK-7 TPU.
4:04All right, there's Carol. KK-7 TPU.
4:07Good morning, Carol. How are you doing?
4:09Good morning, Captain. I'm doing well.
4:11Welcome back from New Jersey, and I don't have any kind of requests, baby.
4:17All right, well, thank you for the welcome back from New Jersey.
4:20Appreciate your prayers, and no new prayer requests. Copy that.
4:24So, that's Carol, KK-7 TPU.
4:26All right, any other check-ins? Please come down.
4:28Thank you.
4:28All right, and I would like to acknowledge Peter, KJ-7BA.
4:54Good morning, Peter. See you there on the Utah SDR.
4:57I appreciate you being with us on the West Coast Bible Study.
5:00All right, Peter says, good morning to everyone.
5:02Good morning to you, Peter. Good contact.
5:04I appreciate you being there, brother.
5:06You and Phil always show up there on our SDRs and appreciate both of you and your faithfulness.
5:13All right, not that others on the SDR aren't faithful, but those two guys have been with us forever.
5:18And I may have talked to one or the other of them from time to time.
5:23I think that Phil has keyed up, but I don't know if I've ever talked to Peter.
5:29In any event, I talk to him every day. He just has to listen.
5:33Yeah, you guys have to listen.
5:35All right, real good. Good to have you with us.
5:37All right, any other check-ins before we start than that? Please come down.
5:39All right, I've got Alpha Sierra Yankee. Help me out with the first part of the call sign, please.
5:51Whiskey 7, Whiskey 7, America, Sugar, Yokohama.
5:56Okay, real good. Whiskey 7, Alpha Sierra Yankee. Good to have you with us and appreciate you being there.
6:01What's your location over?
6:03The location is Carson City, Nevada.
6:08Okay, Carson City, Nevada. Real good.
6:10I know that you've checked in here before. That's Timothy, is that correct?
6:15That is correct, Timothy.
6:17All right, Timothy, real good to have you with us from Carson City, Nevada.
6:21W7A is why we got you checked in. Any prayer requests there, Tim?
6:26K06 OBL.
6:27Okay, I heard a Kilo 6. Kilo 6 station, come back to me.
6:37Kilo Oscar 6, Oscar Bravo Lima.
6:43All right, I've got Kilo Oscar 6, Oscar Bravo Lima. Is that a Roger?
6:49Roger, Roger. California City.
6:52Okay, real good. Good to have you with us. What's your first name over?
6:55Ron, Romeo, Oscar, November. Over.
6:59All right, we've got Ron, Kilo, Oscar 6, Oscar Bravo Lima.
7:04Ron, good to have you with us. We've got you checked in to the West Coast Bible Study and good signal.
7:10All right, any other check-ins? Please come down.
7:15All right, I'm going to need a relay on that call sign.
7:21Somebody help me out. Call sign, please kill him a second time.
7:32Okay, any relay on that call sign?
7:34I caught a pop of whiskey on the end and possibly a Kilo Kilo. That's about all I got here.
7:40All right, so we've got a Kilo Kilo something pop of whiskey. Are we getting close? Station, please try again.
7:57KJ7PW.
7:59Okay, is that Brian? KJ7PWM? Is that you, Brian? If that's you, Brian, give me a Roger, Roger.
8:15Correction, Kilo Charlie 7 pop of whiskey. And he is weak here. I barely got him.
8:21All right, we've got Kilo Charlie 7 pop of whiskey. Is that a Roger, Roger?
8:28Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger.
8:31That's a Roger.
8:33Okay, thank you for the relay there, Jerry. Good ears on that.
8:36All right, KJ7PW, we got you checked in. You're just below my noise level.
8:42So, Jerry, thank you for picking that up. And we do have you checked in. Thank you for being there.
8:48All right, any other check-ins? Please come down.
8:50All right, we're going to get started with our Bible study.
9:04This is Max WB7MAX, Net Control for the West Coast Bible Study.
9:09And we are going through the Book of Psalms together.
9:12And so each day we read a psalm, and then we talk about it and its meaning.
9:17But before we read our psalm, we want to open in prayer.
9:21And so I'd like to ask Brian, K-A-7-Z-I-P.
9:25Brian, if you could open in prayer for us this morning. Go ahead, brother.
9:27K-A-7-Z-I-P.
9:31Father, we thank you for this day.
9:33We thank you for the short chance to get together with all these folks.
9:38Father, there are lots and few names in there.
9:41We pray for everyone that's listening.
9:44And we hope that as we read your words today, because it is a living word,
9:49that no matter how much time we've read it, that you would show us all something in today.
9:53Father, we pray that you would continually, again, touch our hearts, touch our minds, touch our bodies,
10:02and just help us to be better Christians and better examples of you.
10:07Speak to us today, Father, in your name, in the name of your Son, Jesus Christ.
10:12Amen.
10:12K-A-7-Z-I-P.
10:14Back to next.
10:15Amen, Brian.
10:16Thank you so much for that prayer.
10:17I really appreciate that.
10:18All right, we are in Psalm 130, and as is my custom, I give a little background to each psalm
10:26before we read it and discuss it together.
10:30And so this psalm is an evangelical psalm, which means it's a psalm that preaches the gospel.
10:38And so the saving work of Jesus Christ is revealed, of course, throughout the Bible.
10:44And we have a wonderful description of the saving work of Jesus in Psalm 130.
10:51And so this psalm sets forth, like no other psalm, the depths of the darkness and the guilt and the hopelessness
10:59that sin causes in our souls.
11:03And so when the psalmist looks at his sin, he's plunged into the depths of fear and helplessness and despair
11:12because he knows that if God were to mark out each of his sins or even any one of his sins,
11:19he could not ever hope to be justified by God.
11:23Only condemnation awaits the guilty sinner.
11:27And he is filled with an overwhelming sense of his inability to stand before the bar of God's justice.
11:34And so as the psalmist focuses on himself and on his own sins, he feels himself in the depths of despair
11:43and he feels himself to be without any hope.
11:46But the psalmist does not leave his focus on his sins and their evil.
11:53He doesn't continue to dwell upon his guilt and his shame as real as they are.
11:58Instead, what he does is he looks away from himself and his sin and he looks to God and to God's forgiveness.
12:08And so he puts his hope not in his own goodness because he has none.
12:13Instead, he puts his hope in God's mercy and in God's redemption.
12:17And so this journey from a sense of his own sinfulness and condemnation to an awareness of the mercy and the forgiveness of God
12:27is one that every person is invited to make in this psalm and can make if he will turn from himself to Christ.
12:37And so here we have the good news of the gospel, how our despair can be exchanged for hope
12:44and how guilt can be exchanged for forgiveness and how condemnation can be exchanged for mercy.
12:52And so the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ is that with the Lord there is mercy
12:57and with the Lord there is plenteous redemption
13:00and he will redeem all his people from all their iniquities
13:04if they will just put their trust and hope in him and wait on him for their salvation from sin and its consequences.
13:14So that is the main theme and thrust of our psalm and we want to read that psalm together now.
13:22And so Beck, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, if you could please read for us Psalm 130.
13:27Sure appreciate that.
13:28Go ahead there, Beck.
13:28Roger, good morning to everybody.
13:32Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, reading from the New King James Version.
13:37Verse 1.
13:38Under the depths I have cried to you, O Lord.
13:41Lord, hear my voice.
13:43Let your ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.
13:48If you, Lord, should mark my iniquities, O Lord, who could stand?
13:52But there is forgiveness with you that you may be feared.
13:56I wait for the Lord.
13:57My soul waits.
13:59And I, his word, I do hope.
14:02My soul waits for the Lord more than those who watch for the morning.
14:07Yes, more than those who watch for the morning.
14:10O Israel, hope in the Lord.
14:13For in the Lord there is mercy.
14:16And with him is abundant redemption.
14:20And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
14:23Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, back to net.
14:26Beck, thank you for that reading.
14:27Great job.
14:28And what a great psalm.
14:30All right.
14:31Any comments on this psalm, please come down with your call.
14:35That's WV7VZL.
14:38Roger, WV7VZL.
14:40Go ahead.
14:40Thank you, Max.
14:42Thank you.
14:43And thank you, Beck, for that beautiful reading.
14:47This psalm is a keeper.
14:51Not that we shouldn't keep the other ones.
14:53But, boy, this is a jewel.
14:55And it really speaks to the gospel, as you have highlighted, Max.
15:01And yesterday at the seminar on Wycliffe or Tyndale, and I learned that Tyndale, actually, in order to translate the New Testament, where he began with, into English, which was kind of a language in infancy.
15:29Oh, he was in development, rapid development.
15:33He had to coin words in order to do it.
15:36And some have numbered as many as 1,700 English words that we use in the process of being an incredible, talented linguist.
15:54And he was a brilliant, brilliant guy, including the word that you spoke about so beautifully this morning in our psalm.
16:06So, atonement at one minute, atonement came from William Tyndale, a daughter-in-law, for example, came from him.
16:20He had to create language to actually bring the Bible into life.
16:29And this psalm certainly qualifies for that wonderful word, atonement.
16:37Back to you, Max, WB7, Vizadell.
16:40Yeah, Roger, praise the Lord for his linguistic skill that God gave to William Tyndale.
16:47And for the language that he, as it were, had to even create.
16:52The words he had to create to convey biblical concepts, which we employ today without a thought.
16:57And how grateful we are that God laid the foundation way back in those days with Tyndale and others who were so instrumental in fighting the good fight to bring us our Bibles and to get them into our language and to get them freely distributed so that they would not be persecuted for possessing them or distributing them.
17:22So, Roger, thank you for that.
17:24And, yes, atonement, wonderful word.
17:26And it means to cover our sins.
17:30So, so thankful that Jesus' blood atones for our sins.
17:35All right, good comment, Roger.
17:36And thank you for the historical perspective.
17:39All right, any other comments on Psalm 130?
17:40Please come out.
17:42WB7, Alpha Sierra Yankee.
17:45WB7, Alpha Sierra Yankee.
17:46Go ahead.
17:47Yeah, Mike, the thing I'm reading from also has, like, insights.
17:52And I'd like to read the first part of this insight.
17:57Yeah, go ahead, Timothy.
17:58This, uh, Psalms 130 also belongs to the pilgrims of Psalms.
18:03As pilgrims made their way to Zion, they remembered that the greatest obstacle to true worship was not their enemies, who simply made their journey more difficult.
18:14The greatest obstacle was their sin, which actually hindered them from serving God.
18:19What a great comment, Timothy.
18:22I really appreciate that.
18:24And that is exactly correct.
18:26Um, and so the sin is what stands between us and God.
18:31Uh, it says specifically in the Bible, you know, your sins have separated between you and your God.
18:36Uh, and so praise the Lord that we have, um, a Savior, the Lord Jesus.
18:42It says, of him, in Matthew 1 and verse 21, thou shalt call his name Jesus, for he shall save his people from their sins.
18:53And so, because he provided us with a substitutionary atonement, as Roger was talking about, he paid the penalty for our sins and our place to satisfy the claims of God's justice.
19:06Therefore, God can be just and the justifier of those who believe in Jesus.
19:11So, yes, uh, well said, Timothy.
19:14Our sins are what separate us from God and keep us from God.
19:18But there's redemption from those sins.
19:20There is forgiveness for those sins.
19:23It's just a matter of repenting of them and asking Jesus to save us from them, and he will.
19:30Timothy, W7ASY, thank you for that comment.
19:33Great comment.
19:34All right, any other comments?
19:35Please come now.
19:36K-O-Y.
19:37K-O-Y, go ahead.
19:38Was it Tyndale that first broke the chapters of the Bible down into verses?
19:45I think that's true.
19:47I think he was the one who did that, broke them down into chapters and verses.
19:51Uh, Roger, WB7VZL, was anything said about that in the seminar you went to?
19:56Uh, negative, negative.
19:58Uh, I'd have to confirm that.
20:01Somebody can Google that one.
20:04WB7VZL.
20:04Yeah, copy that, George.
20:06Um, it, uh, it may very well be the case that he was the guy who did it.
20:10But I know one of those early, uh, translators, uh, did that.
20:14They broke the Bible down into chapters and verses.
20:17Uh, but, uh, I, I don't know that off the top of my head.
20:20Somebody can look that up and key up and let us know the answer.
20:23Uh, all right, any other comments?
20:24Please come now.
20:26ZXN.
20:26ZXN, go ahead.
20:28Yeah, I believe that was Jerome that, uh, uh, did the chapter and verses there.
20:34But, uh, yeah, back to the text.
20:37You know, this is what we call a penitential psalm.
20:40And, uh, but it is, to me, one of the more powerful in the sense that it recognizes the depth of the sin.
20:50And not only that, uh, our sin ultimately is against a just and holy God.
20:58But he's calling out to that very one he's sinning against for mercy and recognizing the character of God.
21:09And that only him is their hope in forgiveness and salvation.
21:14And, uh, you know, as, as, uh, believers, uh, that isn't, this is the gospel process.
21:21When we recognize how just and how holy God truly is, not to mention all of his other attributes,
21:33the only hope we have to stand, uh, before him and with him is, is with his mercy and his covering, his atonement, if you will.
21:45As, as it's talked about there in the created words, it's interesting, uh, the early translations of Tyndale,
21:52even early King James, they, there was no letter J until, I think it was 1624.
21:59And there's a lot of controversy about that because it was, uh, said to try to change the, uh, sound and language enough
22:08to where the Hebrews would, the, the, the Israel would not get recognition of, uh, of a lot of that text.
22:16But, uh, that's, that's another, but here, the fact that the cry out is to the one who we have sinned against
22:25and then to call out to his brethren and, uh, to, to, for that mercy of God,
22:32the other wonderful quality and character of God that he, you know, as you mentioned, I think, John 3, 16,
22:39that he loved us so much that he gave his son, that we might have the atonement, the covering, the ransom paid,
22:46uh, and we might be, uh, stand with God, uh, through the righteousness of the great sacrifice, our Lord and Savior.
22:56Uh, but yeah, there's a lot packed in these few verses here, to be sure.
22:59KB7, is that acceptable?
23:00KB7, yeah, well said, Kevin.
23:03I really appreciate your comment about the fact that, um, uh, the, the psalmist does two things.
23:10Number one, he does not minimize the evil of his sin and what he did.
23:15Um, he doesn't try to make excuses for it.
23:18He doesn't try to say, well, it was no big deal.
23:21Uh, he recognizes the profound evil of, of sinning against God.
23:27Um, we see that profound evil when sin first appeared in, uh, the book of Genesis, in chapter 3,
23:34when Adam and Eve sinned against God and the, and the enormous consequences that flowed out of that,
23:40uh, not only to Adam and Eve, but also to the human race.
23:43And, um, and so we, we also see the enormity of sin when we see the, the, the, the depth and the degree of atonement that had to be made in order to satisfy the claims of justice against it.
23:56I mean, nothing less than the sinless son of God was a sufficient atonement for sin.
24:01That's how bad sin is.
24:04And so, you know, he says here in verse one, out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord.
24:10And so he's just overwhelmed with how deep his sin has sunk him and how far it has taken him away from God.
24:20And, uh, you know, this language, uh, occurs often, uh, in the book of Psalms, uh, Psalm 38 in verse four, which we looked at previously, uh, for mine iniquities are gone over my head as a heavy burden.
24:36They are too heavy for me.
24:39Psalm 40 in verse 12 for innumerable evils have surrounded me about my iniquities have taken hold on me.
24:47So I am not able to look up there more than the hairs of my head.
24:52Therefore, my heart fails me.
24:54And, and we could go on.
24:55There's numerous passages like that in the book of Psalms.
24:58And so the way to deal with our sin is number one, not to minimize it, recognize it for the depth and the degree of evil that it really is.
25:07And one of our problems is we think too lightly of sin.
25:11And, um, and so one of the ways we can measure, uh, how, how bad our sin really is,
25:17is by, uh, the atonement that had to be made, uh, in order to, uh, deliver us from it.
25:24And then the second point you made there, Kevin, which I thought was really good.
25:28And that is, is that the psalmist turned to the God he had sinned against.
25:34And, you know, when, when you know someone is offended towards you because of something you've done that was bad towards them,
25:40you tend to avoid that person, right?
25:42You tend to do everything you can to not have to see that person or have an interaction with them.
25:48Uh, and in fact, instead of running away from God with our sin, we need to run to God with our sin.
25:55As you well said, Kevin, thank you for pointing that out.
25:58And, um, because he's the only one who can forgive it.
26:02If the sin is against God, then God is the only one who can forgive.
26:05And so we have to go to him and we have to confess the, the nature of our sin, uh, the evil of our sin,
26:12and, uh, then, uh, cast ourselves on him for the forgiveness of that sin.
26:18And that's what, uh, what we're doing here.
26:20Verse two, O Lord, hear my voice.
26:23Let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplication.
26:27So he recognizes the depth and the degree and the evil of his sin, but instead of running away from God,
26:34he runs to God with his sin, spreads it out before the Lord, and asks the Lord for mercy and forgiveness.
26:40And that is exactly the right thing to be doing when we're overwhelmed with the condemnation, uh,
26:48and the consequences of the sins that we have committed.
26:53All right, other comments on our passage?
26:55Please come now with your call sign.
26:56KM5F, comment?
26:58Oh, well, KM5F with your comment.
27:00Please go ahead.
27:01Yeah, this is a follow-up on verse numbers.
27:03It was around, uh, 1440 before Gutenberg printed his Latin Bible.
27:07A guy named, uh, Rabbi Isaac Nathan Ben Calanimous, he completed a concordance of the Old Testament,
27:15where he, every fifth, uh, verse, he put a verse number.
27:20And that's probably the first time that they used, uh, verses.
27:22But then around, uh, 1850, a French, or, uh, 1509, a French guy started, uh, using, uh, verse numbers about every fifth verse.
27:34And then in the, by the 1500s, or, uh, 1550, the French and, uh, English eventually started putting verse numbers in.
27:43And so when the Puritans moved to the, uh, the Americas, they had verse numbers in their Bibles, whether they were German or English.
27:51KM5F.
27:52Well, thanks for doing that historical research.
27:55Really appreciate that.
27:56And, you know, I think what we see from, uh, all of these comments is that, um, you know, our Bibles didn't come to us in one fell swoop.
28:05Uh, it was a process of, number one, in the early centuries, uh, collecting and collating the manuscripts that were written by the apostles.
28:13Um, and then, of course, decisions had to be made about which books were inspired and therefore belonged in the New Testament, uh, and which ones, uh, were spurious and were not truly inspired by God.
28:28And those were assembled, uh, and then, of course, uh, the translation of those into the vernacular, um, and, of course, that had to all be done, uh, by scholars.
28:39It, it was, um, done from, from, uh, the Greek and the Hebrew, uh, into, into Latin, um, and, and then, of course, we had to get the Latin into English.
28:51And then, of course, there was a question of, of the cost until the Gutenberg trending press came along.
28:57Uh, people, only wealthy people could afford to even have a copy of the scriptures.
29:02Um, and then, of course, you know, there were these pioneers like Wycliffe and Tyndale and others
29:08who got the, uh, the, uh, the Bible into the hands of the people through much tribulation, uh, and then there was the perfecting of the translation,
29:17you know, an increasing understanding of Greek and Hebrew.
29:20Uh, and so we wound up then, ultimately, with, uh, not only Tyndale's Bible, but then the King James of 1611, and then here we are today.
29:30So, uh, you know, we have lots to be thankful for.
29:33We tend to pick up the Bible and think, oh, well, that just got assembled all at once.
29:36It didn't.
29:37It was a long, hard process of struggle.
29:40But through that process of struggle, um, uh, God preserved His Word, and God provided it for His people.
29:47Uh, and here we have Bibles today, uh, let's treasure them, uh, and recognize the tremendous cost and effort
29:54that went into, uh, preserving and then providing, uh, God's Word to, uh, His people.
30:02All right, this is WB7MX, Net Control for the West Coast Bible Study.
30:06Are there any other comments?
30:07Please come now if you're called.
30:10KLY.
30:11KLY, go ahead, George.
30:12A perfect example of that is the Dewey Reams Bible, which has books in it that we've, most of us, never heard of.
30:19The Prophecy of O.C., the book of Cephonius.
30:23And, uh, you get into the Psalms and Dewey Reams, and the numbers are all wrong.
30:28KLY?
30:29Uh, yeah, that's correct.
30:30And then, of course, does the Apocrypha belong in the Bible or not?
30:34Uh, and so, of course, Protestants do not recognize the Apocrypha as being inspired of God.
30:39And, uh, of course, neither did the Jews, um, and those are all Old Testament books.
30:45So, uh, anyway, there was a controversy in history as to whether they should be included or not,
30:50and the Roman Catholic Church included them in their Bibles.
30:53The Protestants, uh, initially looked at some of those, but ultimately decided that they did not belong.
30:59They were not inspired, though there are of some historical value, some of them.
31:03Uh, so that's another subject for another Bible study.
31:07Uh, but, George, appreciate you pointing that out a lot.
31:10Um, all right, let's get back to Psalm 130, the content it contains, and the wonderful promises that it offers.
31:17Any comments on Psalm 130?
31:19Please come now.
31:22WB7VZL.
31:23Roger, please go ahead.
31:24I want to thank you, Max, and others, uh, and, uh, the, the tremendous, uh, power of, of this psalm and forgiveness,
31:38and you're in the balance between the incredible, uh, issues of sin and how much heaven has put into atonement
31:51and bringing about the reconciliation between God and man is just immense.
31:58Now, there was always the daily sacrifice, which Israel could, could know that they had that covering.
32:07So when they see the, the, the smoke and the smell, the aroma of the morning and the evening sacrifice,
32:14that was a, a, a tremendous forgiving, uh, presence.
32:19And yet, the, the liturgical year culminating in the, in the day of atonement, uh, lets us know,
32:27as we read Leviticus and all that revolves around atonement, the, as you say,
32:34the tremendous effort it is to bring about atonement ultimately with, with the, with the cross of, uh, our Lord.
32:44And what I love, too, is the second half of the psalm is that there is a patience, there's a patience required.
32:55And there's no, there's one prayer that is always answered instantly is for forgiveness.
33:06Yes, but then the contrast in verses 5 through 8, the patience of the Lord, you know, regarding our lives.
33:16I think Psalm, uh, uh, 2714 is a special, uh, focus and waiting on the Lord.
33:24But I'm just, just thinking of the contrast between the first half, that we can find forgiveness immediately for a repentant heart brought about by the Holy Spirit,
33:36and then the patience of the follow-through in the sense of life experiences and requests.
33:44Over.
33:46Yeah, Roger, thank you for bringing those, those things out.
33:49Um, you know, it's, it's wonderful that we can have instantaneous forgiveness.
33:56Uh, the Bible says if we confess our sins, He's faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
34:03There's no delay.
34:04Um, you know, the, the value, the benefit, the atonement of the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross is immediately applied to our sins.
34:12And so when we turn from our, our life of sin and rebellion and defiance against God, when we turn in repentance and faith in Jesus Christ,
34:22we are immediately cleansed and justified and brought into a personal relationship with God, uh, through His Son, Jesus Christ.
34:31But then, of course, there's that ongoing battle with sin.
34:34And, uh, the good news is, is that, uh, that battle, uh, is a, is a battle that's going to be won, um, as the Holy Spirit works within us and the Word of God works upon us.
34:46And, uh, we grow in grace and in knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and make progress in our walk and our worship.
34:53Um, and, uh, and yet that perfection will be attained in the resurrection when our bodies and our souls will be made perfect.
35:01And so, yes, God is patient with the process.
35:05He extends immediate forgiveness.
35:07And then, of course, uh, you know, the whole idea of forgiveness is not that we're forgiven so we can go back and practice the sin a bunch more.
35:14The whole idea of forgiveness is so that we can turn from it and, uh, and overcome it in our lives.
35:20Um, so, uh, you know, the good news here in verse, uh, one through three is we see this sense of condemnation and despair of sin.
35:30But then in verses four to eight, we see the hope and the expectation of redemption.
35:35And so the psalmist fully owns his sin.
35:38Um, you know, um, Alcoholics Anonymous, right?
35:41One of the things that they, they, they get people to say is, uh, I have a problem.
35:46I'm an alcoholic.
35:47Okay.
35:48Uh, and that's the first step to, uh, uh, overcoming the sin that is in our life is to admit we've got it, to own it, uh, to, uh, stop making excuses for it.
35:59And to say, you know, this is wrong, this is evil, and I have done evil, um, and recognize that, uh, if that's where I'm left, um, I'm condemned.
36:11Uh, and I'm damned, and I'm going to be cast into hell on the day of judgment.
36:15Uh, but, verse four, here's the note of hope.
36:19There is forgiveness with thee that thou mayest be feared.
36:22And so, what do we do?
36:24Verse five, we wait on the Lord, and our soul hopes in Him.
36:30And, uh, verse six, uh, emphasizes that waiting.
36:33My soul waits for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning.
36:37I say more than they that watch for the morning.
36:40And, you know, when you're tossing and turning and you can't sleep, and you think, oh, I wish morning would hurry up and get here.
36:44Um, and, you know, here we are tossing and turning with the guilt and the shame, uh, of our sin and the sense of condemnation and the wrath of God upon us.
36:54And, uh, and, and yet the dawn of redemption has come.
36:58Uh, His name is Jesus Christ.
37:00And, uh, that's why it says in verse seven, let Israel hope in the Lord.
37:05For with the Lord there is mercy, and with the Lord there is how much redemption?
37:10Plenteous redemption.
37:12Not just a little bit, enough to cover all of our sins.
37:16You know, the Apostle Paul said, uh, that he was the chief of sinners, and God provided him with salvation.
37:23And so if the chief of sinners can be forgiven, then certainly we can as well.
37:27Because our sins, as bad as they are, and let's not minimize how bad they are, are still finite.
37:33And yet the grace of God and the atonement Jesus supplied is infinite.
37:38And so it says in Romans 5, 21, where sin abounds, grace does much more abound.
37:45And so what a blessing it is to know that, uh, that we have grace that is greater than all of our sin, as the hymn writer says.
37:54And so there's plenteous redemption.
37:55Don't ever feel like you're too bad, or you've done too horrible of things, uh, for God to ever be able to forgive you.
38:04Um, there is plenteous redemption in the infinite atonement of Jesus, uh, who provided salvation from sin.
38:12Uh, and so it says in verse eight, he shall redeem Israel from how many iniquities?
38:17Oh, all of his iniquities.
38:19And so be encouraged, uh, that as bad as you have done, uh, God has provided a remedy and a means to redeem you from that, to forgive you for that,
38:32and to give you a purity and a righteousness that will enable you to be able to enter into heaven, uh, on that day when God takes your life and takes you home and takes you to be with himself.
38:44Uh, and, uh, he will find you, uh, forgiven and cleansed by the saving, atoning work of Jesus, and because you trusted in Jesus for the forgiveness of those sins.
38:56All right, this is WB7MAX.
38:59We're talking about Psalm 130.
39:01Uh, any other comments on our psalm?
39:03Please come now.
39:05For the question.
39:06The question.
39:07Go ahead, back.
39:08Yeah, in verse eight, can you tell me why the verse refers to Israel as a person, his iniquities?
39:17Yeah, real good.
39:18So the question is in verse eight, and he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
39:22Now, Israel was the name of an individual, right?
39:24So Jacob got renamed Israel, which means the prince of God, uh, when he was wrestling with the angel there in the book of Genesis,
39:33and God his hip knocked out a joint, as you recall well.
39:36Um, Israel is also the name of a nation.
39:40Uh, all of his sons, he had 12 of them, as you recall.
39:43Those are the 12 tribes of Israel.
39:46And, uh, all those who were genetically descent from, uh, this man Jacob are, are called Israel.
39:53But Israel is also used of the people of God in general.
39:59Uh, and so, uh, we, uh, have been engrafted into Israel, Romans chapter 11.
40:06And so it says in Galatians, uh, 3 and verse 29, uh, and if you be Christ, then are you Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.
40:15So, uh, beck, we're all Israelites in that we're all born of an Israelite, namely Jesus.
40:24And, uh, so this promises to us.
40:26Um, Israel here is used in the sense of all of the people of God, whether Jew or Gentile.
40:32So, this word Israel, like so many words in the Bible, has several different meanings based on its context.
40:41And so it can refer to an individual, it can refer to a genetic nation, it can refer to all of those who have a personal relationship with that Jew, Jesus Christ, uh, vis-a-vis the new birth.
40:55And so, um, what he's saying here is that, uh, he shall redeem all of his people from all of their iniquities.
41:04And what defines Israel?
41:07The people who repent of their sins and put faith in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and are born of him and thus become spiritual Jews.
41:16Because it says, he is not a Jew which is one outwardly, uh, Romans chapter 2, uh, neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.
41:25But he is a Jew which is one inwardly.
41:27And circumcision is of the heart whose faith is in God and not in men.
41:33So, a long answer.
41:35Back to your question.
41:37Back, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee, back to you.
41:39Go ahead.
41:40Oh, I would have never guessed that, Pastor Max.
41:43Thank you so much.
41:44See how the Lord works?
41:48I was confused on that one, too.
41:52I was waiting, but nobody asked it.
41:54And I'm, if we got the military net coming up, so I thought I'd better throw it in.
41:58It was at 30 seconds I read that, and then you asked about it, Beck.
42:02Thank you.
42:05All right, Joe Kasich, WXP, and back, Alpha Alpha 5 Yankee.
42:08Good discussion.
42:09All right, any other questions, comments, observations on our Psalm 130,
42:12please come down with your call sign.
42:16WB7VZL.
42:17Roger, please go ahead.
42:18Yes.
42:19I thank you, Max, for that wonderful review
42:22and the experience in Genesis regarding wrestling with the angel with a capital A,
42:30meaning the pre-incarnate Christ,
42:32who gives Jacob the deceiver, the sinner for sure,
42:39and gives him victory and names him Israel, which means overcomer.
42:44So in the book of Revelation, when Jesus talks about overcoming, he overcomes.
42:52He's talking about Israel and the joy of vanquishing our foal through that power of our Lord Jesus
43:01sending the Holy Spirit to us.
43:03But, yeah, Beck, thank you for that review, Max,
43:07and that's a great, great bit of biblical awareness about that term Israel.
43:16It's overcomers.
43:18Anybody that's overcoming in the Lord Jesus is an Israelite.
43:22WB7VZL.
43:23Amen.
43:24Thank you so much for that, Roger.
43:25Appreciate that.
43:26Okay, as Beck mentioned, we are running out of time.
43:28We do have the Vintage Military Radio Network that follows us,
43:32and we want to allow time for prayer.
43:34The net would like to acknowledge Dave, K-E-7-W-K-I.
43:38Dave, see you there.
43:39You've been there a while on the Utah SDR.
43:41Dave, thanks for being with us this morning and riding along with us in our study.
43:47And so the good news is there is forgiveness with God, verse 4.
43:51And so we wait on Him for forgiveness.
43:55And we exercise hope, verse 7, in Him for mercy and for redemption.
44:03There's three wonderful words in this passage, right?
44:06Verse 4, there's forgiveness.
44:08And then verse 7, there's hope.
44:11And then verse 7 again, there's mercy.
44:14And then verse 7 again, there's redemption.
44:17So there's four words there, I guess.
44:19I can't count, victim of public schools here.
44:23So we have forgiveness, we have hope, we have mercy, we have redemption.
44:28All of that comes to us when we turn from our sins to our Savior
44:33and put our trust in Him for the forgiveness of our sins.
44:38But, you know, it says in Romans 6 and verse 23,
44:41the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
44:48And so it says, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
44:53So what we have here is, this is the Isaiah 53 of the book of Psalms.
45:01We have problems.
45:03I'm a terrible sinner.
45:05We have solution.
45:06With God, there is plenteous redemption.
45:09And so let's hope and trust and turn to the Redeemer, the God has provided, the Lord Jesus,
45:15and put our trust in Him.
45:17All right, our time is gone.
45:19What a great psalm.
45:20I hope you'll all reread it, reflect on it, think about it,
45:24and then apply it to your own personal life.
45:26And recognize your sin, recognize your Savior, cast yourself on Him, and find forgiveness.
45:33All right, we want to now turn to our closing prayer.
45:37Are there any final prayer requests before we go to prayer?
45:40Please come now with your call sign.
45:46WB7V0.
45:47Roger, please go ahead.
45:48We have an anointing at the church this morning for a lady that's going for her second ablation.
45:57And she's been very, very anxious.
46:00And Daylene's ministry of going before her with the same doctor has been critical for her decision to move forward in faith.
46:09That's my prayer.
46:10And I'd like to invite her.
46:12The name is Terry.
46:14Terry is going to have an ablation this week.
46:17I'll copy all, Roger.
46:20Thank you for that.
46:20And we will certainly include Terry in our prayers.
46:23Any other prayer requests?
46:24Go ahead.
46:24November 7, Victor.
46:30Echo November.
46:32Go ahead there, Keith.
46:39Keith, go ahead.
46:41That's Charlie.
46:42Oh, Charlie, I'm sorry.
46:45I misunderstood your call sign.
46:47Please forgive me.
46:48Go ahead.
46:48For our son, Trevor.
46:49When he was alive, it meant a lot to the family and to me.
46:53And I just wanted to say thank you.
46:55God bless you all.
46:56November 7, Victor.
46:57Echo November.
46:59Okay.
46:59Real good.
47:00Copy that.
47:01Thank you, Charlie.
47:01Appreciate that.
47:02And I misunderstood your call sign.
47:04Yes, we have continued to pray for you over the loss of Trevor and glad to know that God
47:11is slowly healing your heart.
47:13That's a long process.
47:17And our hearts are broken for you.
47:19Our hearts are with you.
47:21And, yes, we've lifted you up before the throne of grace every day since you lost Trevor.
47:26And we will continue to do so.
47:28So, Charlie, thanks for checking in.
47:30I really appreciate that a lot.
47:32Okay, any other prayer requests?
47:34Please come down.
47:42All right, well, let's go to the Lord in prayer.
47:44Father, we thank you so much for your kindness and goodness to us in providing us with salvation
47:50from sin.
47:51Father, we recognize that this is the central problem of the human race.
47:56The wages of sin is death.
47:57And in the day that Adam ate and sinned against God, sin entered the human race and the human
48:04experience.
48:05And ever since then, we've been under condemnation, not only because of what he did, but because
48:10of what we've done.
48:12Father, we have sinned and come short of modeling and practicing your character.
48:19And so, Father, we just thank you that we can come to the Lord Jesus, cast ourselves on
48:26him, and find from him forgiveness of sin.
48:30And so, we do trust in Jesus to save us from our sins.
48:35Father, we want to bring before you today the requests that have been brought to us.
48:41Father, we thank, first of all, of Roger and this gal, Carrie, that he and his wife are
48:47ministering to, who's going to have this second oblation.
48:50And, Lord, I pray that that procedure would be successful.
48:54I pray that you would calm Carrie's heart, that you would remove her fears, that you would
48:59give her the peace that passes all understanding, that she would just trust you and wait on you
49:04for your work through the physicians, to bring about a remedy for the arrhythmia that is in her heart.
49:12Father, we just thank you so much for Roger's ministry to her.
49:17We pray, Lord, that you would be pleased to use Botian Dalene to encourage Carrie's heart.
49:26Father, we just want to pray for Pastor Ben Rory, who's in the hospital, ICU, with cancer.
49:37Father, it sounds like the outlook isn't very good.
49:42But, Lord, you can do miracles.
49:44And, Lord, if you're pleased, be pleased to save Ben Rory's life so that he can return back
49:51to the pulpit, Lord, we thank you for Gene Sanchez, who is filling in for Pastor Ben.
50:00And, Lord, we just ask that you would be pleased to give him strength and wisdom in preaching.
50:06And, Father, we pray for his wife, Dory, and her cancer.
50:09Lord, she's had chemo radiation.
50:11Pray that you would heal her as well.
50:13Father, so many with cancer.
50:15And, Lord, we just lift up each one and ask you, Father, for mercy.
50:19And so have mercy on Ben Rory.
50:23Have mercy on Dory Sanchez.
50:26And, Lord, here's Gene in the middle between them, having to fill the pulpit and be a pastor
50:32to both his wife and to his own pastor.
50:35Give Gene special grace and wisdom in being able to fill that role while he is struggling
50:43himself with his own wife having cancer.
50:46Father, just hold that church together.
50:49Hold it up.
50:50And, Father, may the people pull together and just support one another.
50:54Exercise faith in Jesus.
50:56And may you show yourself strong on behalf of all of those who have tried in you.
51:01Father, we just pray today for Jubal, N7PTT, for safe travels, for his family's return trip
51:09for vacation.
51:11Lord, we pray for Eric, KD7ES, who runs our Netlogger program.
51:16He and his wife are over at the Oregon coast enjoying a little break.
51:20Lord, just pray that Eric and his wife would have a blessed time there and that you would
51:24bring them home safely to us.
51:26Lord, we just thank you that Keith K7NEB's mom was able to be placed into a new living situation.
51:35Help her to adapt to that situation, find friends, be at peace, and have joy as she lives there
51:41in that new situation.
51:43Lord, just provide her with friends and encouragement.
51:47Father, we just thank you for his son Grant and his wife Rachel who are expecting a baby boy
51:52in May.
51:53Lord, we pray for a safe delivery and for a healthy baby.
51:56Lord, just want to thank you for my own safe return home yesterday from New Jersey.
52:02And Father, pray that you just give me wisdom as I carry out my work here now that I'm back home.
52:08Father, we pray for Dave, KI7PWSZ.
52:11His daughter's Brenda is battling breast cancer.
52:13And she's receiving chemotherapy treatment now.
52:16We pray, Father, for Brenda's healing.
52:19We pray for David as well, that you would heal the pain in his back and that the treatment
52:25for his bulging discs would be effective.
52:28Father, we just pray for our brother Jim N7BKE.
52:31Lord, we pray that you would continue to give him strength and health at 94 years of age and
52:38also bless his witness in the retirement home.
52:41And I pray that you would bring healing from that flu epidemic that was going through that
52:46home.
52:46Father, we pray for Steve, W6YSI, and his wife Leslie as a referral to a vascular surgeon
52:53for her leg pain.
52:54Pray, Lord, that that situation would be fully resolved.
52:59Father, we pray for Peter, KT6TT, who's dealing with flood damage in his home, just like I am.
53:04Lord, I pray that our homes would be restored back to where they were before those floods
53:09occurred.
53:10Father, we pray for Glenn, KJ7UMW, that, Lord, he would have good sleep and rest from pain.
53:17We pray for Bob, KB7CL, that you would meet his needs, Father, in his life.
53:24We think of Mark, KJ7PVT, and the unspoken prayer request he has.
53:30Father, be pleased to meet those needs.
53:32You know what they are.
53:33Father, be with our brother Mike, N7GND, who's out elk hunting.
53:37Lord, pray that you give him safety and success and good camaraderie with those that he's hunting
53:42with.
53:43Father, we pray for Al, N6MOT, for his health issues and those of his wife.
53:50Lord, we just pray for George, K1KOY.
53:53He lost his wife, Pam, to cancer.
53:55Father, Lord, we just pray that your presence and power and peace would fill that gigantic
54:01hole that was left in his life when his wife died.
54:05Father, bring comfort and peace.
54:07Father, we just pray that Caitlin would have a safe delivery of that first great-grandson
54:13in November.
54:15Father, may there be a healthy baby and a healthy mom.
54:18And, Lord, I pray for George that you would help him to have safe travel as he visits the
54:23family over Thanksgiving.
54:25Lord, we heard from Charles, N7VEN, this morning about his son, Trevor.
54:31And, Lord, what a heartache that is to lose your own son to cancer.
54:37Father, but we know that one day Charles and Trevor will be together again in heaven.
54:43Until then, Father, just give Charles the peace that passes all understanding.
54:47And now, Father, we just ask for mercy and grace for Dave, AI7QQ, and his ministry to Noah.
54:57Lord, we pray for Noah's perseverance in the faith.
55:00Lord, we pray for Jerry, KG6J, his boss, Rochelle, and her cancer treatment.
55:06Father, we pray for Beck, that you would give him wisdom and physical strength to be able
55:11to do all that needs to be done to get into his new home.
55:14Father, we thank you for providing that for him.
55:18Lord, we just want to pray for Mike, KI7RSB, and his wife, Liz, fighting cancer.
55:23And we pray for effective chemo treatment to take place there.
55:27Father, we have these and many more requests.
55:30Father, we're out of time, but you know these requests.
55:33And we pray, Lord, that you would meet each one of them.
55:36And, Lord, we ask these things in Jesus' name.
55:39Amen.
55:40All right, this is WB7MX, Net Control for the West Coast Bible Study.
55:44I want to thank all the stations who checked in, as well as those who stood by to give us
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55:50We meet here seven days a week at 6 a.m. in order to read the scriptures,
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55:59to be able to live out what we learned and for God to meet the needs of those that are
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56:05Since this is Sunday, we will be turning this frequency over now.
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